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Originally Posted by Broadbill-Pro
Jim,
Give me a Fking break, for the past 4 years I did not have a permit and I had Fck All clout with you.
I bought a permit after realizing that day fishing produces more meat than I can consume. To date I have sold 2 fish from a single voyage, the proceed was just under $1000. The way I see it considering the purchase price of the permit I should have my capital investment back around 2020. Weren't you looking for a restricted species permit last time we spoke?
At times I have to remind you that you kill fish for a living. The other night at the Sword meeting Professor O told us that it does not matter how you kill them, if you do then you share the responsibility of their demise.
It must keep you up at night to know that in the past 7 months of pitiful fishing you can not point a finger at anyone. It makes one wonder if that 1983 Fort Lauderdale Sword Tournament with no fish weighed may not have been due to PLL? What am I thinking??? Ofcourse it was, RIGHT???
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Wow! Did I strike a nerve? I had refrained from posting on many subjects because I am tired of the constant banter! When it comes to your repetitive statements, I can't stop myself. So here is some repetition from me.
The reason why you have limited clout with me is because I see the "duck" in you! I called that out when you tried to tell everyone you were "retired"! You can take the man from the sea but you can't take the sea out of the seaman. This also pertains to me and the reason why I knock heads with you all the time. I couldn't imagine being without it, but I definitely come from very different viewpoint than yours.
What we discussed via our last phone call is that during these hard times it would be nice to have a restricted species license to be able to defray costs. As I told you then, it is almost impossible to get an RS permit now. Who can catch and sell $5000 worth of grunts in a year without becoming a full time commercial fisherman. I have NO intentions of ever becoming a commercial fisherman, I'm too conservation minded for that! But on the same note... during that conversation you told me your were building a 23' Mako to allow you to trailer up and down the coast economically, to where the fish are, because your Ocean Master was too awkward and expensive to trailer. Does that sound like someone who is a retired commercial fisherman and made claims to be a "recreational fisherman"???? Basically, no matter what was said during our conversation, you hold a permit to sell and I don't! A year ago you opined that daytime Sword fishing was going to hurt the stock worse than the PLL, yet you often fish as a daytimer now, WITH a permit. You are once again a commercial fisherman and I am still a recreational charter captain! I think most members of this forum recognize that!
If you are trying to portray me as part of the killing machine, you are sadly mistaken and barking up the wrong tree, Brother. Read some of my reports and you will see that I take different parties fishing (the masses) and they keep what they want but very seldom more than 3 or 4 fish. Look at the pics in my reports! Of those 3-4 fish we may keep they are never the same species day after day, as in your case, which in itself reduces the impact as well. In fact, I have killed the same number of Swordfish in the last 8 years that you did in one single daytime trip. Devon and I release just about all the fish that the customers (the masses) don't want to take home. Matter of fact we will even STOP fishing an area if the fish are being eaten by sharks. Even as a charter captain, allowing my customers (the masses) to keep whatever they can use within legal limits, we have more than likely, killed less poundage of fish per person, than you and others have (single handedly), in any given year. I have not SOLD a single pound of those fish, either! It pizzes me off when we return to the dock and the charter decides they don't want the fish, after all, and now we have to give them away instead of returning them to the sea.
As far as the comment about the 1980's tournament. I am not naive or stupid enough to beleive that the commercial PLL had no impact on the Swordfish off the Florida coast. Everytime commercial fishing is removed from an area or species that area or species begin to replenish, but it is time to get off this merry-go-round of deplete-replenish-deplete-replenish. That is your philosophy, as well as the thinking of the commercial sector, on the Swordfish in the FEC. One point that has never been rebuffed is that I know of no species that has been overfished solely by recreational fishermen. The recreational fisherman has to constantly undergo a barrage of regulations due to commercial overfishing. It is hard to explain to someone that they can only keep one fish over X inches while the boat next to them with the big 6" numbers on the bow, can fish them all day. The customers (the masses) I take out are not on your side! They'd rather eat chicken and be able to catch fish when they go fishing!
Go ahead and rebutt as I know you will! I'll finish by saying "Have a great day, Vinnie!"