floyds wall , south end keep the bait on the bottom i'm using 12 # when the rod moves hit the button fast or i miss em every time they are crafty at getting the baits off (especially with all the extra line out)tie it on real good it dont need to be pretty like at night just tied on good ...i'm using break away and stay on weight the only downfall with stay on is when they jump it acts as a dehooking device..the break away can get hung up too and break before the fish gets it and your #$$@@ so its a catch 22... good luck